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	<title>Comments on: Pain v. Performance: An Interesting Paradox</title>
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		<title>By: Mike T Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike T Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there Geoff!  Thanks for the updates here and I am interested to see how it goes. 

I do think that most times pain does inhibit performance and is associated with a much higher cost.   

For competitive athletes, there are times that this cost is part of the game.  For most who are not getting paid to perform, I would like to see them keep the cost low. 

The brain is associative and at its simplest level, if you move in pain, you are teaching your brain that movement is painful.

I would like my brain to learn that movement is NOT painful and this approach is the same to be used with athletes in pain. 

Unfortunately, this is rarely talked about anywhere. 

I have some other thoughts for you too. 

Rock on
Mike T Nelson PhD(c)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there Geoff!  Thanks for the updates here and I am interested to see how it goes. </p>
<p>I do think that most times pain does inhibit performance and is associated with a much higher cost.   </p>
<p>For competitive athletes, there are times that this cost is part of the game.  For most who are not getting paid to perform, I would like to see them keep the cost low. </p>
<p>The brain is associative and at its simplest level, if you move in pain, you are teaching your brain that movement is painful.</p>
<p>I would like my brain to learn that movement is NOT painful and this approach is the same to be used with athletes in pain. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, this is rarely talked about anywhere. </p>
<p>I have some other thoughts for you too. </p>
<p>Rock on<br />
Mike T Nelson PhD(c)</p>
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		<title>By: GEOFFN</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 17:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ - Looks great!

You&#039;re kicking butt! Glad to see that not only are you making progress but you are achieving &quot;a-ha&quot; moments. 

&quot;I now associate failure with imperfect form and imperfect form with potential for injury and setback.&quot;

This is a GREAT revelation - if more people got this, they&#039;d have more results. In fact, if we learned this sooner, we&#039;d probably much further along then we are now, huh?

Keep up your smart work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ &#8211; Looks great!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re kicking butt! Glad to see that not only are you making progress but you are achieving &#8220;a-ha&#8221; moments. </p>
<p>&#8220;I now associate failure with imperfect form and imperfect form with potential for injury and setback.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a GREAT revelation &#8211; if more people got this, they&#8217;d have more results. In fact, if we learned this sooner, we&#8217;d probably much further along then we are now, huh?</p>
<p>Keep up your smart work.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Moon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 13:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>December payoff 

Beast Press - reps left arm 1 up to 5
                            reps rt arm 3 to up to 5 without going to failure or pain

HIT Squats as a test in smith rack for safety and vertical motion
5 reps down to bench set at just below parallel with 410 PB since shoulder surgery, since surgery shoulder would not rotate fully down and back to support the bar without immense pain so I avoided it. Pain like that = setback in training

Dual KB Snatches - 10 x 10 w 24 kg in 34 minutes could not have imagined that a month ago, sucked some air, didn&#039;t go to failure trying to remember not to do that. I now associate failure with imperfect form and imperfect form with potential for injury and setback.

Taking a functional movement test today with a guy trained by Pavel to see where my muscles are not firing properly...your influence Geoff.
I realize now at a deeper level that if all the muscles are not firing properly then it is not possible to unleash all the strength I am capable of generating. So I owe that to reading about your lunge work on your hip. TGU showed me some areas, ironically the same ones identified by massage therapist just by touching the muscles and feeling where the tension was....without me telling him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>December payoff </p>
<p>Beast Press &#8211; reps left arm 1 up to 5<br />
                            reps rt arm 3 to up to 5 without going to failure or pain</p>
<p>HIT Squats as a test in smith rack for safety and vertical motion<br />
5 reps down to bench set at just below parallel with 410 PB since shoulder surgery, since surgery shoulder would not rotate fully down and back to support the bar without immense pain so I avoided it. Pain like that = setback in training</p>
<p>Dual KB Snatches &#8211; 10 x 10 w 24 kg in 34 minutes could not have imagined that a month ago, sucked some air, didn&#8217;t go to failure trying to remember not to do that. I now associate failure with imperfect form and imperfect form with potential for injury and setback.</p>
<p>Taking a functional movement test today with a guy trained by Pavel to see where my muscles are not firing properly&#8230;your influence Geoff.<br />
I realize now at a deeper level that if all the muscles are not firing properly then it is not possible to unleash all the strength I am capable of generating. So I owe that to reading about your lunge work on your hip. TGU showed me some areas, ironically the same ones identified by massage therapist just by touching the muscles and feeling where the tension was&#8230;.without me telling him.</p>
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